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[Worlds_Of_Fantasy] Re: Organizing Research Material

2008-06-07T00:22:00.001-07:00

Thanks for the great response everyone.

--- In Worlds_Of_Fantasy@yahoogroups.com, "solidart84"
<solidart84@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> I'm currently trying to summarize some information that might be
> useful in a story I'm writing. I found this very difficult because
> most of the information could prove valuable. Do you run into the same
> problem? Could you share any strategies for collecting and organizing
> your research material?
>

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2008-06-06T22:45:00.001-07:00

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[SoCalBrowncoats] CABC Exclusive Serenity Better Days #1 at Comic-Con

2008-06-06T22:01:00.001-07:00

Copied from SerenityStuff.com:

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"Dark Horse Comics is really cool. They are unbelievably cool. They
are, in fact, so unbelievably cool that they've joined forces with the
California Browncoats to make a variant Serenity comic to sell at the
San Diego Comic-Con, just to benefit Kids Need to Read.

Which is pretty cool, you gotta admit.

The California Browncoats will be selling the comics at SDCC. It will
be a variant edition of "Serenity: Better Days #1″ with the Will
Conrad wraparound cover art they used for their special DH 100
version, only this will display Will's pencils instead. 32 pages, all
the stuff from the first one, but with a cardstock cover for extra
specialness. They'll be $10 each, only 5,000 will ever be available,
and 100% of the proceeds (roughly 8 bucks per book) will be donated to
Kids Need to Read, the children's literacy program founded by Nathan
Fillion and author PJ Haarsma.

These will only be available at Comic-Con 2008, but even if you can't
go the California Browncoats are there for you. Specifically, on eBay,
where on all five days of the con they'll be selling copies of the
DH-California Browncoats SDCC edition of Serenity. Again, all proceeds
will go to Kids Need to Read. Bookmark their eBay page and be ready
(I'll give you a heads up when it gets close).

Major thanks to Dark Horse and to the Cali Browncoats sponsors Gabriel
Stempinski, Margaret Weis Productions, Creation Entertainment,
Poplollies.com, The Powers Team - Marsia and Eugene, Dwight Bragdon,
Done The Impossible , SaveHiatus.com and Quantum Mechanix, who helped
make this possible.

This is a great collectible and a great cause (funny how so many
Whedon-based projects combine the two). Check out the California
Browncoats site for more details."

http://www.californiabrowncoats.org/

We have a lot more exciting news coming for Comic-Con 2008!

James
PS. Yes indeed, you do see our very own locals, Marsia & Eugene and
Dwight as some of the sponsors. :)

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[SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?

2008-06-06T21:09:00.001-07:00

No calming down! :) We like the enthusiasm around here. It's the
banging of heads against the Alliance rules that we should avoid.

We'll see you at the LA screening in exactly 2 weeks! (and one hour)

James

--- In SoCalBrowncoats@yahoogroups.com, Maria or Robert Vangilder
<miarobv@...> wrote:
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>  
> I know I've got more enthusiasm than smarts when it comes to this
sort of thing.  Organizing a shindig/work day would be great way
to see the AA and help at the same time.  OK, I'll calm down and
just be happy that I'm getting to see the BDM on the big screen. 
Keep me on the volunteer list.
> Maria V
>

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Re: [SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?

2008-06-06T21:05:00.001-07:00

I know I've got more enthusiasm than smarts when it comes to this sort of thing. Organizing a shindig/work day would be great way to see the AA and help at the same time. OK, I'll calm down and just be happy that I'm getting to see the BDM on the big screen. Keep me on the volunteer list.
Maria V

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, James <danregal_ff@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: James <danregal_ff@yahoo.com>
Subject: [SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?
To: SoCalBrowncoats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 8:52 PM

Thanks for such a generous offer. We'll do what we can to get it
there. Might have to park it close by at a public parking lot.

There isn't a need to chip in for gas or rent a vehicle (AARG has an
expense account for that). The backup plan is my dad's truck, but I'm
not sure he would let anyone else drive it besides me. And I will be
too busy with the screenings themselves all 3 days to handle the
driving. Let's wait and see on the shopping center or alternate
location. And then let's see if anyone offers a vehicle and/or to drive.

Dangit, I might just make my parents come on out and have them see
just what it is I do with my spare time. Then we'll have a driver and
a truck. :)

At the least, we need to set up a shindig in the late summer/early
fall that we can bring the ambulance and put it on display. We can
also make it a work day and get the ambulance cleaned up more. Maybe
make it part of our Serenity 3rd Anniversary celebration in September.
It's likely it will be on display at the Creation convention in
November, and we want it looking good for that.

James

--- In SoCalBrowncoats@ yahoogroups. com, Maria or Robert Vangilder
<miarobv@... > wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>    My son says my SUV is too light to tow the Ariel
Ambulance.  I'm not giving up on this.  If no one else has a
truck, I will look into renting one at my expense.  It would just
be so sad if the Ariel Ambulance is available and we don't get to use
it.  Of course, as you stated, the shopping center might not let
it happen anyway.  If someone else comes up with a truck and
driver, I will chip in for the gas.
> Maria V
>

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Re: [Worlds_Of_Fantasy] Re: Organizing Research Material

2008-06-06T21:02:00.000-07:00

We're not all that different in our approaches it seems. My fiction starts from an outline... which is usually written on an evvelope most of the time... that being the nearest paper when the flow starts and the ideas need recording. I have a 180,000 word book that was done that way.

However when I did my art books and my one now on starting a business, the outlines have been chapter heads and then I research the chapter and detail the process. Now for my new one I am looking at at least 40 chapters to cover all bases. Each chapter is a dozen illustrations/pictures, along with a few hundred words. Then I go back and simplify until it is as easy to understand as I can make it. The outlines become monsters. None of it is theory, so I illustrate from life and that means contacting companies and the competitors so no one company has an advantage as much as possible. That takes time.

I never have been a gamer as it just never appealed to me. I was in the military and believe me, if there is a place where planning does not work... that is it. Some doofus doping off will screw up the best plan going. Some need to goof off drives men and there goes all the preparations. Been there and seen it in reality. Don't want to play it. Its not a game to me. I've been in Germany where those fights took place and met people who were in them. I can understand getting into a game... I just can't. I guess knowing what I do ruins it for me.

Spider

---- Gabriel Landowski <gabriel_landowski@yahoo.com> wrote:

=============
Oh, for fiction no - I usually go with just an outline and then I keep making successive passes to flesh out the "fish" so to speak. Each time I read it I'll say "hmmm" and I'll edit a little or add a little to make the story "better". Eventually I'll get to a point where I need to stop with the updates and thus I'll have my book.

If I do research projects, etc. then it can get into this organized way. It's a carry over from my organization skills when I worked in a law office. I used to be good at putting together motions, etc. and some of the cases had things like cut out pieces of seat belt etc. So the challenge is how to catalog everything and still hand out copies of stuff to all parties concerned (the seat belt I took a picture of ((hi res)) and put color glossies 11x8 as a tabbed item. I thought about scanning it 3D and providing it on disk but figured that was getting a little crazy...).

When I research battles for my war gaming - then *that* can get pretty detailed. I'll have all sorts of different sources (books, web, print outs, scribbled notes, maps, etc.) and I have to keep it all straight so I can make scenarios out of them. Even then I can just "wing it" if I need to. For example, we do a Big Game and this year it's in Shepherdstown, WV near Antietam, MD. The theme is the Battle of the Bulge and Kampfgroupe Pieper. We're trying to do the fighting around Stoumont for 19 to 20 Dec 1944. But if our detailed research plans fall on their face then we'll just do a generic Dec of '44 battle. It's great - 1/72 scale tanks and infantry spread out over a field at leasst 6 x 18 feet in dimension.

Uh, sorry.... you can see where and why I get carried away! *grin*

Cheers & Good Luck

----- Original Message ----
From: "thespider@cox.net" <thespider@cox.net>
To: Worlds_Of_Fantasy@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Gabriel Landowski <gabriel_landowski@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 6:06:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Worlds_Of_Fantasy] Re: Organizing Research Material

WOW Gabe, That is super organized. I did something similar on my How-To books only with actual paper, pictures and all. I wrote on the folders what was in each file and why (That's important because you WILL forget)...
Like I said, that was for text books, but is that what you do for fiction too? It seems a trifle too organized and stiff for a fastpaced story. Not that I am criticizing... Just curious. If it works for you then it is terific. I do have a project on "Getting into business with no money" that has a careful step-by-step plan to be followed. Your way would work well so I shall use something much like you described... Thanks
Spider

---- Gabriel Landowski <gabriel_landowski@yahoo.com> wrote:

=============

I do an outline of the story and number the sections & subsections.

As I find research material I save it to my computer in a sub-folder
numbers the same as the sections in my outline. This way I have a
correlation between my outline and my research material and i know why
i saved that bit of info.

If I get enough material in a sub-folder then I'll put a _notes.txt
file in there and tell myself what I put in there and why.

If I start from the other end and collect research material, I just
keep a note file or paper and create a table of contents for the
folders whether in the computer or in the real world (or both).

In the end I have a list that tells me everything I have collected and
where I can find it.

--
SPIDER
Author * Artist * Consultant * Teacher
early american hippie artwork
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[SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?

2008-06-06T20:52:00.001-07:00

Thanks for such a generous offer. We'll do what we can to get it
there. Might have to park it close by at a public parking lot.

There isn't a need to chip in for gas or rent a vehicle (AARG has an
expense account for that). The backup plan is my dad's truck, but I'm
not sure he would let anyone else drive it besides me. And I will be
too busy with the screenings themselves all 3 days to handle the
driving. Let's wait and see on the shopping center or alternate
location. And then let's see if anyone offers a vehicle and/or to drive.

Dangit, I might just make my parents come on out and have them see
just what it is I do with my spare time. Then we'll have a driver and
a truck. :)

At the least, we need to set up a shindig in the late summer/early
fall that we can bring the ambulance and put it on display. We can
also make it a work day and get the ambulance cleaned up more. Maybe
make it part of our Serenity 3rd Anniversary celebration in September.
It's likely it will be on display at the Creation convention in
November, and we want it looking good for that.

James

--- In SoCalBrowncoats@yahoogroups.com, Maria or Robert Vangilder
<miarobv@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>    My son says my SUV is too light to tow the Ariel
Ambulance.  I'm not giving up on this.  If no one else has a
truck, I will look into renting one at my expense.  It would just
be so sad if the Ariel Ambulance is available and we don't get to use
it.  Of course, as you stated, the shopping center might not let
it happen anyway.  If someone else comes up with a truck and
driver, I will chip in for the gas.
> Maria V
>

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[comicart-l] Re: OT: Bill Everett book / Ditko reprints coming from Fantagraphics

2008-06-06T20:46:00.001-07:00

Mark B wrote:
> I'll be looking forward to a comprehensive Everett book.
> He was one of the gods of the pantheon (the comic one, that is!)
> and his are greatly underappreciated / forgotten, except by the
> people in the know.

Hi Mark. Thanks for your interest in the book. I definitely agree with
your statement about Everett. It would have been frightening to think of
how well he'd be regarded today if he had worked for EC instead of
Marvel in the 1950s. I'd put him up against anyone for his horror work,
and the scary part of Everett's genius is that his last work - the
Sub-Mariner issues in the #50s in 1972/73 - was amongst his best.

Thanks,
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Re: BLUDHAVEN FIC- The Purrfect Storm Rated PG (Answer to hug your cat challenge)

2008-06-06T20:43:00.000-07:00

Shannyn!!

Dedication: For Robin! This is my strange answer to your hug a cat day challenge. Hope you likey!

This is the purrrrfect answer to the challenge! I love it! So romantic. @>----
I loved that episode of JLA, and this is a perfect follow-up. :-)

Hugging her up close, Batman kissed her head softly, gently stroking the long ebony silk fur that embodied her. She purred and licked his face

Batman...he has a flavr. (Why yes, I have been spending too much time with LOLCats *VBG*)

and suddenly weighed a hell of a lot more than she had only seconds before.

A little advice to Bruce - don't mention this out loud, or you'll be in deep trouble. lol

Batman didn�t comment but he made no effort to put her down either. Holding her closer he drew her into a slow deep kiss. A wet one that had nothing to do with the rain falling down.

*grins* Bruce is such a romantic at heart.

Thanks for taking up the challenge Shannyn. This was delightful. :-)

Robin

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Re: [SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?

2008-06-06T20:22:00.003-07:00

Hi James,
My son says my SUV is too light to tow the Ariel Ambulance. I'm not giving up on this. If no one else has a truck, I will look into renting one at my expense. It would just be so sad if the Ariel Ambulance is available and we don't get to use it. Of course, as you stated, the shopping center might not let it happen anyway. If someone else comes up with a truck and driver, I will chip in for the gas.
Maria V

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, James <danregal_ff@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: James <danregal_ff@yahoo.com>
Subject: [SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?
To: SoCalBrowncoats@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 4:07 PM

The hitch on my dads truck says class 3 on the sticker on the bottom.
It needs to be rated for 500 Lbs tongue weight, which is what class 3
is supposed to be.

from the AA website: "volunteer driver(s) with a 1/2+ton vehicle
(truck, SUV, suburban,... ) with class-III hitch (rated for 500lbs
tonuge weight) to tow the ambulance, and gas money (about $.30/mile)--
any help would be greatly appreciated! "

At this point, our backup plan (me) is very unlikely, so if you have
the right truck, and no one else can do it, we may very well take you
up on the offer. Also, if you are comfortable having an experienced
driver do the driving with you in the truck, it may be easier to do
that than find another vehicle.

This is all dependent on even being able to display the AA at all of
course, since the shopping center seems to have a lot of rules and
insurance requirements we may not be able to meet.

Anyone else either have a truck or can be a driver?

Maria, you've got the job if the ambulance is there. :)

Thanks!
James

--- In SoCalBrowncoats@ yahoogroups. com, Maria or Robert Vangilder
<miarobv@... > wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>    I have an SUV with a 2 " receiver hitch.  I'm
pretty sure that is a class 3 once you put the ball part in the
receiver, but not positive.  If it is, and you don't find someone
with more recent hauling experience, I'll do it.
>    As for ambulance representative duty....are you
kidding?  People would  pay good money to do that.  Me
included.
> Maria V
>   
>
> --- On Fri, 6/6/08, James danregal_ff@ ... wrote:
> From: James danregal_ff@ ...
> Subject: [SoCalBrowncoats] Ariel Ambulance at the OC CSTS screening?
> To: SoCalBrowncoats@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 9:41 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> We are still trying to get the ambulance to the OC screening in 2
>
> weeks. We have a backup plan to get it there, but we'd like a better
>
> Plan A. So this is where you come in.
>
>
>
> First - We would like someone with a truck (with Class 3 trailer
>
> hitch) that can pick up the ambulance at the Compton airport on
>
> Saturday and take it back on Sunday.
>
>
>
> Second - If you have a truck we can use but can't drive it for any
>
> reason, we need a driver.
>
>
>
> Well, that was a short list. We might also need one of our volunteers
>
> to be our ambulance representative, showing it off and keeping an eye
>
> on it while it's at the theater.
>
>
>
> Please post here or send an email if you can help.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> James
>

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[Worlds_Of_Fantasy] Big Apple Con Goes Stellar with Richard Dreyfuss and Denise Crosby Sunday June 8

2008-06-06T20:22:00.001-07:00

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

MIKE CARBONARO'S
BIG APPLE COMIC BOOK, ART, SCI-FI & TOY EXPO
New York's Longest-Running Comics Convention!
Saturday & Sunday, June 7th & 8th
Penn Plaza Pavilion, New York City

MIKE CARBONARO'S BIG APPLE COMIC BOOK, ART, SCI-FI & TOY EXPO will kick off with
the SUMMER SIZZLER at the PENN PLAZA PAVILION, SATURDAY & SUNDAY, JUNE 7th & 8th
IN NEW YORK CITY. There will be more than 300 dealers & exhibitors, showcasing
comics, toys, action figures, original art, videos, autographs, trading cards,
TV & movie memorabilia & more. It's the place to buy, sell or trade your
collectibles!

The Big Apple Convention proudly presents Oscar winner RICHARD DREYFUSS (Jaws,
Close Encounters of the Third Kind) and DENISE CROSBY ("Star Trek: The Next
Generation", 48 Hours, Pet Sematary,), both of whom will only be appearing only
on Sunday from 11-3! We're also thrilled to welcome MALCOLM McDOWELL ("Heroes,"
A Clockwork Orange, Star Trek Generations), ICE-T (Rap Star, "Law & Order: SVU")
& his wife, model COCO, DOUG JONES (Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer,
Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy), JASON MEWES (Clerks, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back),
JOHNNY BRENNAN (Jerky Boys, "Family Guy"), CHASE MASTERSON (Star Trek: Deep
Space Nine), YANCY BUTLER ("Witchblade"), BUTCH PATRICK ("The Munsters,"
Saturday only), SOUPY SALES (Sunday only), KATHRYN LEIGH SCOTT ("Dark Shadows"),
RANDY JONES (Original cowboy of the Village People), JASMIN St. CLAIRE ("Metal's
Darkside"), MONIQUE DUPREE (American Gangster, Bachelor Party), Pro wrestling
legends CAPTAIN LOU ALBANO, SANDMAN, & JOHNNY DIAMO
ND, three voice actors from "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles," "YuGiOh!" "Speed
Racer," and other favorite shows and anime: WAYNE GRAYSON (Michaelangelo), PETE
ZARUSTICA (Fugitoid), & DAVID ZEN MANSLEY (Bishop), and radio's "BIG KEV." There
will also be a Friday the 13th, Part 2 reunion with WARRINGTON GILLETTE, JACK
HARRIS, and LAUREN MARIE TAYLOR, and from Part 3, ANNIE GAYBIS.

The Big Apple Con is the place to meet comic book legends and hot new artists!
Special guests appearing include BERNIE WRIGHTSON (Swamp Thing, Captain Sternn
from Heavy Metal), GENE HA (Top Ten, Batman: Fortunate Son, The Adventures of
Cyclops and Phoenix), ARTHUR SUYDAM (Marvel Zombies, Moon Knight), MARK TEXEIRA
(Wolverine, Moon Knight, Ghost Rider), RICH BUCKLER (Fantastic Four, Deathlok),
IRWIN HASEN (Wildcat, Dondi), JOE GIELLA (Silver Age DC and Marvel Inker), ALEX
MALEEV (Daredevil, New Avengers: The Illuminati), BILLY TUCCI (Shi, Heroes for
Hire), TOMMY CASTILLO (Detective Comics, George A. Romero's Toe Tags), RICHARD
HOWELL (Hawkman, Vision and the Scarlet Witch) , DANNY FINGEROTH (Amazing
Spider-Man, Sunday only), and many more!

There will also be panel discussions, role-playing and board games hosted by
Neutral Ground and NerdNYC.com, the NY Jedi, fantasy and historical
swordfighting groups Dagorhir and the Society for Creative Anachronism, Captain
Zorikh's costume contest, and a film festival each day!

DATES: Saturday & Sunday, June 7th & 8th
TIMES: 10am - 7pm
PLACE: Penn Plaza Pavilion, 401 Seventh Ave. @ 33rd
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TICKETS: $15 per day, $25 two-day pass
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[comicart-l] Current contact needed for 16 creators

2008-06-06T19:21:00.001-07:00

Marvel Comics is trying to update their contact list
and needs current info for the following creators ...
( phone and / or email address would be GREAT !! !! )

ALBERTO PONTICELLI
BERNI WRIGHTSON
PAT LEE
AKIRA YOSHIDA
BEN HERRERA
CHRIS RENAUD
DAVID BREWER
DUNCAN FEGREDO
GEOFF JONES
IGOR KORDEY
JAMES ROBINSON
LEE FERGUSON
LUCIANO LIMA
MATT SMITH
PETER GILLIS
RAMON BERNARDO
RICHARD CASE

PLEASE email me at SpencerBck@aol.com if you can
provide any of the information ... it would be a HUGE help.

Thank you in advance,
Spencer R. Beck
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Re: BLUDHAVEN FIC: If You Fall 13/?

2008-06-06T19:15:00.001-07:00

BRAVISIMO. Author Author Author. LOVE it. I can understand how Tim is feeling but I think he really should be trying to give Bruce the benefit of a doubt. I love the way you are doing Jim Gordon. Oh no, looks like a mini showdown of Tim and Bruce with Dick caught in the middle. Dr, Curtis, better keep your nose out of it lol. Better job security that way. Aw trying to make him leave. Dick needs his father figure.

Huffy

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Dana Snyder <willowdana@msn.com> wrote:

Leslie stopped the car at a side entrance to Wayne Memorial. She
knew this was the only way Bruce would agree for her to take Dick to
the hospital. They had taken off the Nightwing suit and had worked
together to come up with a cover story. She knew Dr. Katie Curtis
wouldn't ask questions.

Katie and an orderly hurried up to them with a wheelchair and with
Bruce's help they were able to get Dick into the wheelchair.

"We have an emergency room ready." Katie said as they hurried
inside. "There will be no one but medical staff here as you
requested Mr. Wayne." Katie said turning to Bruce who was holding
Dick's hand as they moved him to a gurney.

One of the nurses, Margie Young, who had come up, let out a curse
under her breath when she got a look at Dick. She supposed being an
ER nurse in Gotham City she should be used to this kind of thing but
somehow she was still surprised.

"What happened?" Katie asked as she started taking off Dick's shirt
to examine it.

"He was mugged." Bruce answered. "He called me from a payphone."

Katie looked at him but remembered what Leslie said about keeping
things quiet. She didn't want to ask the obvious questions because
she had a seriously injured patient in front of her. Questions
would come later.

"Okay Mr. Wayne I need you to leave the room while I examine your
son."

Bruce didn't move.

"I assure you we will do everything we can for him but we need the
room to move around."

"I'm not leaving."

Katie looked at Leslie who nodded.

"Okay then scrub up and stay out of the way."

(((

Tim stood on the roof of Central with Commissioner Gordon.

"What happened tonight Robin?" He asked.

"Nightwing was captured by Two Face and taken to a warehouse. I
followed them and found him with his face all cut up. We went
through some kind of Fun House that ended with me sliding to the
ground and Nightwing was shot twice."

"What about Matches?"

"He was with Two Face most of the time." Tim had to make a decision
of what to say. Gordon knew who Matches was so he supposed he could
say a lot. "He allowed Two Face to shoot Nightwing." He said
looking away. "Then you all burst in and he took Nightwing with
him."

Gordon shook his head having suspected that but it still sounded
wrong. Batman wouldn't stand by and let someone get shot. He knew
Batman's opinions on guns and couldn't understand why he had held a
gun to Nightwing's head.

"Does he have amnesia again?"

"No."

Gordon stood there thoughtfully for a moment. "I have an APB out
for Matches. We will find him."

"I know." Tim said and then took out his jumpline and left.

Gordon remained on the roof worried about all of their state of
minds.

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Re: [Worlds_Of_Fantasy] Re: Organizing Research Material

2008-06-06T19:14:00.001-07:00

Oh, for fiction no - I usually go with just an outline and then I keep making successive passes to flesh out the "fish" so to speak. Each time I read it I'll say "hmmm" and I'll edit a little or add a little to make the story "better". Eventually I'll get to a point where I need to stop with the updates and thus I'll have my book.

If I do research projects, etc. then it can get into this organized way. It's a carry over from my organization skills when I worked in a law office. I used to be good at putting together motions, etc. and some of the cases had things like cut out pieces of seat belt etc. So the challenge is how to catalog everything and still hand out copies of stuff to all parties concerned (the seat belt I took a picture of ((hi res)) and put color glossies 11x8 as a tabbed item. I thought about scanning it 3D and providing it on disk but figured that was getting a little crazy...).

When I research battles for my war gaming - then *that* can get pretty detailed. I'll have all sorts of different sources (books, web, print outs, scribbled notes, maps, etc.) and I have to keep it all straight so I can make scenarios out of them. Even then I can just "wing it" if I need to. For example, we do a Big Game and this year it's in Shepherdstown, WV near Antietam, MD. The theme is the Battle of the Bulge and Kampfgroupe Pieper. We're trying to do the fighting around Stoumont for 19 to 20 Dec 1944. But if our detailed research plans fall on their face then we'll just do a generic Dec of '44 battle. It's great - 1/72 scale tanks and infantry spread out over a field at leasst 6 x 18 feet in dimension.

Uh, sorry.... you can see where and why I get carried away! *grin*

Cheers & Good Luck

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To: Worlds_Of_Fantasy@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Gabriel Landowski <gabriel_landowski@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 6:06:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Worlds_Of_Fantasy] Re: Organizing Research Material

WOW Gabe, That is super organized. I did something similar on my How-To books only with actual paper, pictures and all. I wrote on the folders what was in each file and why (That's important because you WILL forget)...

Like I said, that was for text books, but is that what you do for fiction too? It seems a trifle too organized and stiff for a fastpaced story. Not that I am criticizing... Just curious. If it works for you then it is terific. I do have a project on "Getting into business with no money" that has a careful step-by-step plan to be followed. Your way would work well so I shall use something much like you described... Thanks

Spider

---- Gabriel Landowski <gabriel_landowski@yahoo.com> wrote:

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I do an outline of the story and number the sections & subsections.

As I find research material I save it to my computer in a sub-folder
numbers the same as the sections in my outline. This way I have a
correlation between my outline and my research material and i know why
i saved that bit of info.

If I get enough material in a sub-folder then I'll put a _notes.txt
file in there and tell myself what I put in there and why.

If I start from the other end and collect research material, I just
keep a note file or paper and create a table of contents for the
folders whether in the computer or in the real world (or both).

In the end I have a list that tells me everything I have collected and
where I can find it.

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Re: BLUDHAVEN FIC: Go Down Fighting 71/?

2008-06-06T18:50:00.001-07:00

LOL. The Duo still think in tandem. :) Oh man, well yeah Barbara deserves to be angry but I hope she will try to listen. She better not upset either of the Duo though as Selina won't like it. :) This is getting good. No wonder, the Duo does not trust magacians or hocus pocus.BRAVISIMO!

Huffy

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Dana Snyder <willowdana@msn.com> wrote:

"What do you mean?" Bruce demanded.

"When we got Jason back, he complained about being really cold and
was running a temperature. We didn't think anything about it right
away since the doctor said there was a cold going around. When he
didn't get better after a week, we checked him into the hospital. I
took him to JSA headquarters to have him examined by Dr. Mid-Nite
who said he was being effected by Kryptonite."

"Dick wouldn't have problems with Kryptonite." Bruce reminded him.

"Neither has Jason before so it's not that." He walked into the
Manor. "I want to talk to Dick."

Bruce led him up the stairs and to Dick's room. Dick was staring
out the window and didn't even turn to look at them when they
entered the room.

"Dick?" Clark asked stepping closer to the bed.

Dick turned his head and smiled at Clark. "Hi Clark." He said
sitting up further in bed.

"Bruce said you are sick. Are you cold?" He said though the layers
of blankets was evidence enough for that.

"I was in the rain for hours last week watching the Ventriloquist.
It's from that. Tim and Selina are just overreacting."

"Have you heard that Jason is very sick?"

"I heard at the meeting that he was at the JSA Headquarters. How is
he?"

"Well he started with the same symptoms that you are showing. I
don't want to lie to you Dick, but, Jason might be dying."

"What?" Dick asked shock written all over his face.

"Dr. Mid-Nite hasn't been able to find anything to help him. He
won't tell me but I just know."

"Clark I'm fine. It's just a stupid cold. I was stupid to go out
in the rain that long."

The front door slammed open.

Bruce hurried out of the room to see who was there and found Barbara
and Patrick there.

"Where is he?" She demanded.

"Barbara..." Bruce started to say.

"Where is Dick?" She demanded again.

Dick heard her yelling and sat up in bed. He stood up, keeping a
blanket around him as he left the room. He went down the stairs
ignoring Clark's attempts to help him.

"I'm fine." He said.

"I received a message on my phone while I was dropping Patrick off
at school from Lucious saying you were didn't look well and asked if
I could come pick you up. I called your office and was informed you
had gone home for the day. Since you weren't answering your
cellphone, I figured you must have gone here."

"Babs everyone's overreacting. I'm fine. Just have a cold from
being out in the rain last week. Remember you said I was lucky
didn't get pneumonia."

"I'm taking him to JSA Headquarters so that Dr. Mid-Nite can examine
him."

"No you aren't." Both Bruce and Dick said.

"Why are you taking him there?" Barbara demanded.

"Because he's showing the same symptoms as my son, and my son is
very ill."

"Start at the beginning." She said barely holding onto her anger
for being left out of this.

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Re: BLUDHAVEN Fic: Not Okay

2008-06-06T18:43:00.001-07:00

Excellent story! I can relate to both sides of the equation here. It really moved me and it seemed so very true. HUGS Mary.

Huffy

Its sometimes hard to remember just because a few apples are bad, that doesnt mean all apples are bad.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Red Wulf <jlgh@nlamerica.com> wrote:

Loves this one. Geeze I think we have all been where Tim is right now. No one knows or cares what is wrong with us, or if they do care it scares and angers us. Thing is we still find our way to where we want to be.

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RE: BLUDHAVEN June 4th - Hug Your Cat Day

2008-06-06T17:42:00.000-07:00

>Now is that hug 'YOUR' cat day? Or hug 'MY' cat
>day? Cause if I hug YOUR catwell Spike might hurt me LOL
>
>
>
>:O)
>
>Shannyn

LOL!! I think it might be safer if you hugged
your own cat. Spike....does not like his dignity
ruffled. But...I snuck up on him and gave him a big hug anyway. >:-}

I'll give him a hug from you next time I catch
him napping. It's good for him! LOL!

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Re: BLUDHAVEN Re: June 4th - Hug Your Cat Day

2008-06-06T17:38:00.000-07:00

>
>*snickers* i read that and my cat came running over and I gave him a
>hug

LOL! Here's hoping he took it better than Spike did! I hugged him,
but he was not amused. ;-)

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Re: [comicart-l] Re: SDCC Hotel Question ...

2008-06-06T17:05:00.001-07:00

With parking at $10-$25, just take a cab.

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On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:31 PM, atnk2000 wrote:

> Unless you get there at 7 a.m. or so, you can forget about parking at
> teh convention center. If you get there before opening you can find
> parking near the con, which if I recall, runs $10-$15 Weds and Thurs
> then jumps up to $20-$25 for the weekend. Some of the lots close at
> some certain time (10 or 11?), so that's another thing to consider.
>
> I also seem to recall that you can park at the ballpark, but don't
> remember the specifics.
>
> Alex
>
>
> Is parking really bad around the Con? Since I was staying
>> nearby last year, I didn't really notice the parking situation.
>>
>> Any advice on or off-list would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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[SoCalBrowncoats] Re:Birthday Reminder

2008-06-06T17:02:00.000-07:00

Happy Birthday Jen

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BLUDHAVEN June 6th - Yo-Yo Day

2008-06-06T16:57:00.000-07:00

Yo-Yo Day

Yo-Yo day is here...hooray! Not that you need an excuse to play with your Yo-Yo. Wherever you are today, get out your Yo-Yo and impress your friends, family, and co-workers with your Yo-Yo skills. And, do it at work today! If you don't think it's appropriate at work, consider the fact that three U.S. presidents (Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon) showed off their Yo-Yo expertise while in office!

It's origin is hard to factually prove. Many believe that the Yo-Yo originated in China as early as 500-1000 B.C. However, their is some evidence that it was first used in Greece even before this time. Over the centuries the Yo-Yo has had it's ups and downs (tee,hee).

The Yo-Yo was made wildly popular in America by businessman Donald F. Duncan Sr. He manufactured the "Duncan Yo-Yo" in the early 1900's.

Celebrate the Yo-Yo today by "walking the dog" or "shooting the moon", the most popular Yo-Yo tricks.

Origin of Yo-Yo Day:

National Yo-Yo Day was established as June 6th in honor of the birthday of Donald F. Duncan Sr.

While June 6th is recognized as Yo-Yo day, there is some unsubstantiated reference to June 10th.

Yo-Yo Trivia

The worlds largest Yo-Yo weighs 256 pounds, and is on display at the National Yo-Yo museum.

In 1992, Jeffrey Hoffman took a Yo-Yo into space aboard the shuttle Atlantis.

http://www.holidayinsights.com/other/yoyoday.htm

Challenge: Take the Yo-Yo as your prompt. Write a drabble featuring your favorite DCU character(s). >:-}

Can you picture the Bat brothers competing to see who's the best with a yo-yo?
Or one or more of them trying to teach Damien to yo-yo?
Do the Arrows have a yo-yo arrow?
Do they yo-yo in Atlantis or on Paradise Island?
I'll bet Clark learned to yo-yo back in his Smallville days.

No time limit or restrictions on length, ratings, pairings, or anything else I can think of, but do be sure to include the headers as requested in the Posting Rules (msg # 84387).

Have fun!

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[SoCalBrowncoats] Re: Can't Stop The Serenity is TWO WEEKS AWAY!

2008-06-06T16:11:00.001-07:00

Very happy to hear you can make it Michelle!

Yes, indeed, all tickets and merchandise will be at the screening. We
will have a will call table, either inside the lobby or on the
sidewalk outside.

Also, if there is a line (and we're Browncoats, of course there will
be a line!) we will have volunteers bringing the tickets to you to
make it easy.

They will also be taking donations for the prize drawing and selling
some of the other merchandise. But you can always just come up to the
table for any of this.

I added a FAQ to the site recently that should hopefully answer these
and other questions.

http://socalbrowncoats.com/?page_id=21

Thanks!
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> I thought I would be recovering from surgery so would not be able to
> attend. Instead, my doctor got me in for surgery a month ahead of
> time, so I am now perfect to go to CSTS. With that in mind, I just
> purchased my ticket online. My question is, do I pick up my ticket at
> Will CAll at the screening, or is there supposed to be something for
> me to print out?
>
> I apologize if this has been mentioned previously, but I didn't see
> anything and after the transaction there was no indication.
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BLUDHAVEN FIC: Go Down Fighting 71/?

2008-06-06T16:09:00.000-07:00

"What do you mean?" Bruce demanded.

"When we got Jason back, he complained about being really cold and
was running a temperature. We didn't think anything about it right
away since the doctor said there was a cold going around. When he
didn't get better after a week, we checked him into the hospital. I
took him to JSA headquarters to have him examined by Dr. Mid-Nite
who said he was being effected by Kryptonite."

"Dick wouldn't have problems with Kryptonite." Bruce reminded him.

"Neither has Jason before so it's not that." He walked into the
Manor. "I want to talk to Dick."

Bruce led him up the stairs and to Dick's room. Dick was staring
out the window and didn't even turn to look at them when they
entered the room.

"Dick?" Clark asked stepping closer to the bed.

Dick turned his head and smiled at Clark. "Hi Clark." He said
sitting up further in bed.

"Bruce said you are sick. Are you cold?" He said though the layers
of blankets was evidence enough for that.

"I was in the rain for hours last week watching the Ventriloquist.
It's from that. Tim and Selina are just overreacting."

"Have you heard that Jason is very sick?"

"I heard at the meeting that he was at the JSA Headquarters. How is
he?"

"Well he started with the same symptoms that you are showing. I
don't want to lie to you Dick, but, Jason might be dying."

"What?" Dick asked shock written all over his face.

"Dr. Mid-Nite hasn't been able to find anything to help him. He
won't tell me but I just know."

"Clark I'm fine. It's just a stupid cold. I was stupid to go out
in the rain that long."

The front door slammed open.

Bruce hurried out of the room to see who was there and found Barbara
and Patrick there.

"Where is he?" She demanded.

"Barbara..." Bruce started to say.

"Where is Dick?" She demanded again.

Dick heard her yelling and sat up in bed. He stood up, keeping a
blanket around him as he left the room. He went down the stairs
ignoring Clark's attempts to help him.

"I'm fine." He said.

"I received a message on my phone while I was dropping Patrick off
at school from Lucious saying you were didn't look well and asked if
I could come pick you up. I called your office and was informed you
had gone home for the day. Since you weren't answering your
cellphone, I figured you must have gone here."

"Babs everyone's overreacting. I'm fine. Just have a cold from
being out in the rain last week. Remember you said I was lucky
didn't get pneumonia."

"I'm taking him to JSA Headquarters so that Dr. Mid-Nite can examine
him."

"No you aren't." Both Bruce and Dick said.

"Why are you taking him there?" Barbara demanded.

"Because he's showing the same symptoms as my son, and my son is
very ill."

"Start at the beginning." She said barely holding onto her anger
for being left out of this.

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